am i the only person who thinks this is one of the worst ideas ever? I'm not a big fan of black metal, but I'm REALLY not into listening to music because it's "funny to me" or whatever excuse most of the people at this event will have. and the blatant waste of food, made by the most wasteful food companies on the planet... they've destroyed rain forests to let cattle graze so you can have them slaughtered so some attention-whores can wrestle in a pool of death? what's the point? what does this prove? that you can get women to degrade themselves in ANY "food" you can think of? What a disgusting display of America's gluttony and lack of culture.
well these companies are going to sell a billion hamburgers this year alone whether i have the show or not. and yes it is an ironic juxtaposition of death and gluttony. i'm sorry if you can't understand how to juxtapose to seemingly unrelated topics in your mind.
i mean how many galleries in new york feature artwork by photographers who make their models look like emaciated women from the third world, causing an incredible amount of damage to the psyches of young women in america? maybe i will do a show that juxtaposes morrissey lyrics with bulimia. yes. i will call it Girlfriend in a Coffin but you probably won't get that either.
there is a delicate balance in this world. so all that food that fashion models don't eat this year can be thrown around on a bunch of people that want to have a good time for a couple of days.
furthermore, there will hardly be any black metal music that you will have to be subjected to at this show. there is only one black metal band in the two day event.
Gladly, you're not the only person to think this is a bad idea. I was beginning to think I was the only one.
I hardly doubt this show was concieved by sitting around and thinking about what seemingly unrelated topics could be contrasted. I think it has more to do with, yet again, people in this city trying to be qwerky and weird, while attempting to pass it off as "art". I'm really tired of people lowering the music and art bar in Baltimore, it's disgusting.
Please tell these girls involved that there is more to life than getting attention, and if their low self-esteem is truly that bad, then degrading themselves further won't really help their situation.
p.s. Morrissey? Does everyone involved with this event like Morrissey? C'mon, it's 2007.
Okay, well here's what I have to say. Why does everyone keep focusing on the ladies who are participating in this for fun? If you are worried about ladies degrading themselves, take a look at "The Block". There's something you can be pissed about.
hmmmmm...
"I think it has more to do with, yet again, people in this city trying to be qwerky and weird, while attempting to pass it off as "art". I'm really tired of people lowering the music and art bar in Baltimore, it's disgusting."
Okay, so someone does something different from the Norm, and all the sudden it's disgusting? It's okay if you don't like it, don't understand it, or don't think it's fun. Really, that is okay. But, just because you aren't into it, doesn't make it a bad idea?!? If this isn't something you want to participate in, then stay at home and watch your Fox News Channel (if you don't the terrorists might win!)
And lastly, though I can't stand the sound, look, or thought of Morrissey, but who are you to call someone out on their music choices? Are you gonna call out all the people that enjoy music other than what you like???
I apologize that some people have different views than you do. But, you may have to learn to live with it. I'm sure it happened before, I'm sure it will happen again. Try thinking outside of your little box.
By the way, you speak of lowering the music and art bar in baltimore, and how disgusting all of this stuff is... your fucking name is Ugly Horse Balls.
wonderful! i cant tell you how boring i find most art events to be. i came up with this event because i wanted to do something fun and absurd. i love that some people are upset or confused by this event. i must be doing something right!
i love this city and all the filth and strange characters that come with it. kudos to all the crazy heathens i have met in this city that make my life more worth living. for those of you that can't lighten up, i will gladly let you borrow my crowbar to pry your head out of your ass.
i don't appreciate my friends who are participating in the wrestling, being referred to as whores. they are wonderful and fun friends of mine, who are participating in this event because it is a good time. your ugly imagination makes your interpretation of how to perceive this event ugly.
if you want to raise the standards of anything, "ugly horse balls" (is that how you want to represent your highbrow point of view?), could you please start with your spelling?
I assure you, Charlotte Benedetto has no problems with self esteem, has never been termed an "attention whore," and doesn't "degrade herself" for mens' entertainment.
THE REASON THE RAINFORESTS ARE OVERGRAZED IS BECAUSE YOU DON'T VOTE.
It's not because I'm going to kick the Roller Girls' asses all over the place. YOU ARE IGNORANT.
I've been training for 2 weeks so far, internet fags, you wanna come help me work out?
You puked:"What a disgusting display of America's gluttony and lack of culture." What a disgusting display of me kicking your ass verbally. What a disgusting display of pseudo-liberal and pseudo-environmental and pseudo-feminist sentiment.
Before you holler all over the ghetto about us "lowering the bar" why don't you start your own world-renowned art and music collective so we can be on the same level? Oh, I'm sorry, must be because you can only criticize. How sad for you.
"You're the One For Me Fatty" is a fucking awesome song, as is "Every Day is Like Sunday," What exactly is the point of making remarks like "do you still like Minor Threat? C'mon it's 2007. You still like the Ramones? C'mon it's 2007." The land of 2007 is populated with retards, so yes, I also like 1977 and 1987 music. Did you pretend to like Morrissey in 1997, but realize the sham is over, and now it's time to pretend to like something else, or to pretend to be outraged by a food fight?
HERE HERE!!!! THANK GOD FOR YOUR CREATIVITY DEGREASER!! It's a break from the monotony of daily living. It's fun, it's an escape, and it's a great idea. I also agree with you on the wrestling aspect. These ladies are doing it for fun. Why not take part in something so spectacular?!?!
I'm behind it 100% (even if you like Morrissey! Haha, many people do)
These are probably the same people who think like this dude...
um, I actually prefer the sounds of mugwye1 and Ugly Horse Balls crying over a fucking show! Not to mention that fucking song on the BMFFF video! That is stuck in my head!
All this Being My Friend Forever Fuckerage is making me hungry. I know, I'll just do some jumping jacks, pee on a copy of ArtForum, jog over to Lexington Market and carbo-load on a rainforest beef bacon-cheeseburger fried in the blood of some liberals. Ahhh, what a life of leisure it is, being a celebrity artist in Baltimore.
Most self-righteous hippies would make an excellent source of smoky, smoky bacon, has anyone considered this? MMmmmmm, cannibacon.
Kevorkian here. mugwye1 happens to be one of my good mates so its refreshing to hear his argument. i agree with him. this is wasteful. when it could be served to food not bombs or another charity. but hey THE WORLD IS FUCKED TO SHITVILLE so nihilism is the only way out sometimes. Creative Nihilism. you know the huge tomato festival in rome? i think its rome. they all run around in tomatos and fight! lets invite them over!....
I know for a fact that one of the wrastlers is not going to be dressing in skimpy hot stuff, she will be in full mexicano wrestling outfit and mask of course. now thats bad ass.
as for me... ill be on the fucking stage, with other comrades... puking an audial fountain of black blood everywhere. on you. sub-bass sonic derailment of the lowest order!!!!! and im a fuckin vegetarian! i havent ate at Burger thing, McRonalds, or Kenfucky Tazered Birds .. Taco Hell is an exception.. they make a good bean and rice on the go. (i recommend the Extra Hot sauce)
ill be in the corner with my veggie burger and a chalice of decapitated angel blood.
the tomato fight (Tomatina) takes place in SPAIN every year for 1 hour. many trucks come by and unload tomatos, they give you goggles. and its on muthafuckas:
"Before you holler all over the ghetto about us "lowering the bar" why don't you start your own world-renowned art and music collective so we can be on the same level? Oh, I'm sorry, must be because you can only criticize. How sad for you."
Believe me darling, I'm 10x more proficient with art and music than you will ever be, so please, don't make me list my abilities on here because I'd rather let you off easy.
And if these certain unnamed pseudo-art collectives is all it takes to get recognized, then I'm hurtin' for society's standards.
"You're the One For Me Fatty" is a fucking awesome song, as is "Every Day is Like Sunday,"
I've heard some Morrissey songs before. They're not bad. But I would never say I like it.
"What exactly is the point of making remarks like "do you still like Minor Threat? C'mon it's 2007. You still like the Ramones? C'mon it's 2007."
No, I don't still like Minor Threat (and I definitely hate the Ramones) because they're music is so fucking outdated now. Why still listen to Minor Threat when there are new bands out there now doing a better job. It was great music at the time, and it's great nostalgia, but c'mon, we've moved on musically.
"Did you pretend to like Morrissey in 1997, but realize the sham is over, and now it's time to pretend to like something else"
No, I've never liked Morrissey. I've never enjoyed any artists that was popular when my parents were my age. That was music for them.
I can understand enjoying music that your parents had you listen to growing up or whatever, but move on. There's alot more out there than Frank Zappa and The Beatles.
i don't agree with anything that these companies do, in fact the opposite. that is why i have invited over 50 artists to say whatever they want using the topic. what they choose to do is up to them. while i am not a vegetarian, i do think it would be great if we could get most of our food from vegan sources like soy. i also think hemp should be used instead of trees as it is a more economical and environmentally friendly crop. i will actually look into giving a portion of the proceeds to food not bombs.
The point is not "it's wasteful" the point is that self-righteous people like to claim that "it's wasteful" or "it's not feminist" when their actual problem with the event is "I don't like it."
food not bombs does not want ten pounds of white bread and gallons of mayo, trust me, I ran FNB OUT OF MY HOUSE FOR THREE YEARS. I don't remember seeing you there.
FAIL.
How can you even advocate giving homeless people this NON-Food? So they can be poisoneed too? FAST FOOD IS NOT FOOD. Activists spend a lot of time educating people like you.
You vomited: Believe me darling, I'm 10x more proficient with art and music than you will ever be, so please, don't make me list my abilities on here because I'd rather let you off easy"
FAIL. oooh, I'm being let off easy!
Calling someone "darling" only makes you seem paternalistic and dumb. You're talking to someone who SELLS their artwork. For money. Someone who WRITES articles. For money. But you did use the word "proficient." Hmmm. You seem suddenly so godlike next to my weeny nobody-ness. Phew. Glad you let me off easy. Dad.
You puked: Why still listen to Minor Threat when there are new bands out there now doing a better job. It was great music at the time, and it's great nostalgia, but c'mon, we've moved on musically.
I bet you get mad when the "new band" you introduced to everyone "sells out," too, right?
It's okay to like new things AND old things, junior! Cheer up! What's this "we've moved on"? What, you got a mouse in your pocket? this might blow some minds, but I can continue to like King Diamond during my liking Matt + Kim phase, okay? I'm a complex person. Clearly you are not.
you spewed: No, I've never liked Morrissey. I've never enjoyed any artists that was popular when my parents were my age. That was music for them. I can understand enjoying music that your parents had you listen to growing up or whatever, but move on. There's alot more out there than Frank Zappa and The Beatles.
The fact that you write this proves you know exactly nothing about who you are arguing with and what you are talking about. "Darling."
Also: "ALOT" is not a word.
Like I said, those two Morrissey songs are good, and I'm confident in my coolness level so I can admit publicly to liking them. I also enjoyed Peter Paul and Mary, Mercyful Fate, Amy Winehouse, and the folk music of immigrants from Jamaica to Britain in the 1950's-- today. Just in one day!
How can someone simultaneously like all these things? It's called growing up, little Ugly Horse Balls, it's called "Growing Up."
ummm....anyone else like boobies with their burgers? Lemme hear ya say YAH! @mugwye1 phk off back to Adbusters and let creative people like Peter alone. Don't you have some shoe factory you can hassle?
Hey Char! I can assure you that i didn't put anyone up to this. There really are pretentious sticks in the mud out there like this. I am laughing my ass off at this thread!
Anyways, you'll be glad to know that I talked it over with Neil and we decided that we are going to donate a portion of the proceeds to Food Not Bombs.
I think the problem is a lot of us thought BMFFF was supposed to highlight hipster irony and apathy about corporate waste and the many complex social manifestations of black metal within the American "bad-ass" idiosyncratic idiom which stretches from the West Memphis Three all the way back to Stagger Lee.
Okay, you seriously made me laugh out loud here at work with the whole "you vomited:", "you spewed:" bit, so that was pretty good.
In any case, for future reference, it would help your cause a bit to not resort to pointing out my little flaws in spelling. iff i wuz writng lik this, id undirstand it. But, seriously, you're going to hassle me about "alot"...
You farted: "...You're talking to someone who SELLS their artwork. For money. Someone who WRITES articles. For money...Dad. (that was funny too)"
I truly think it's cool you get paid for doing what you do. But just because it sells doesn't mean its actually good. I've seen plenty of artwork out there that sucks ass, yet, it sells. That's just one of the mysteries of the Universe. Kid.
You pooped: I bet you get mad when the "new band" you introduced to everyone "sells out," too, right?
No, because I don't introduce music to people. Ever. I do hate it when bands sell out, who doesn't.
I'm a complex person. Clearly you are not. I'll be the first to tell you that. I'm as un-complex as they come.
A bigger turd: "...I also enjoyed Peter Paul and Mary, Mercyful Fate, Amy Winehouse,...folk music of immigrants from Jamaica to Britain in the 1950's-- today. Just in one day! How can someone simultaneously like all these things?"
I believe it's called: "being easily appeased" or, "lack of individual style."
Biggest turd of all: It's called growing up, little Ugly Horse Balls, it's called "Growing Up."
What do you know about growing up? Are you 60 years old with 4 grandkids and living off retirement?
Why the fuss over Ugly Horse Balls? Are you upset that I didn't choose something more mature, like ILUVPICASSO? So yes, my chosing Ugly Horse Balls is a reflection of my nature. I'm fine with that. Then does having an "art show" party where people waste food and women wrestle in it for qwerky entertainment have anything to say about the nature of those attending/organizing?
All in all, this was a very interesting conversation and I actually enjoyed it.
ok. so some people don't know how to spell quirky. big deal.
you just talk so much shit you don't know anything about. you haven't even seen any of the art in the show or know what it's going to be, so it is easy for you to say that it's crude and lowering the bar.
if you would have taken 5 minutes to research any of the artists that are in the show, you would have seen that it features internationally renowned tattooers like albrigo, whose piece is phenomenal, and seth ciferri. You would have seen that very well renowned photographers like sam holden, josh sisk, joe m. giordano, who are all published in magazines are in the show. you would have seen that charlotte is a big part of wham city, which recently had an 8 page spread in city paper, and its members have been given a great deal of praise in the new york times and pitchfork media. i could go on but to assume that this is some crude show is ridiculous. i myself am a graduate of rhode island school of design, published, and sell my artwork. i've assembled a huge list of great artists and bands for this. i don't really want people at the show that can only focus on "waste of food". i'm donating some proceeds to food not bombs so quit whining about it.
Seriously, if people who care about Baltimore's underground art communtity are complaining this diligently, you probably ARE doing something wrong.
Its almost like you are being purposely and arrogantly ignorant to the fact that the theme of your art show alienates a large chunk of your potential audience. And that is not good p.r.
I would love to hear the organizer of BMFFF to give a thorough explaination of ... why this is an artshow worth paying money to attend.
And also, just from a personal stand point (and this is no attack, a reponse is not necessary) I don't give a shit about big names of artists when i go to art shows. If anything it makes me want to go about 10,000 times less. I'm just as interested, if not more so, in what the 'nobodies' are producing.
{feel free to correct any of my grammatical errors, i live for constructive criticism}
seeing that i'm new to this city, the artists in this show are simply the ones i know and like. i've heard mixed things about peoples feelings towards this show which are mostly based on a gut reaction to images their minds conjure up from the juxtaposition which is indeed an ugly one. it's meant to be. i explain the idea behind the show somewhere else on this blog. i think a good deal of art shows are boring and irrelevant to things going on in our culture or merely touch on a subject like a whisper and "who cares?". this is NOT A SHOW LIKE THAT. this show is a sledgehammer and sledgehammers can be messy but they sure are fun!
After reading all of the comments I am really frustraited with everyones really narrow view of what "art" is.
I may not be involved in the art scene or even know anything about "art" for that matter, but last time i looked up the definition of art there were like 16 definitions of what art exactly was and i'm sure there are even more than that.
the first definition says:
"the quality, production, expression, or realm, according to aesthetic principles, of what is beautiful, appealing, or of more than ordinary significance."
no matter how cliche it is, beauty really is in the eye of the beholder and what some people see as art others see as weird or stupid. Art means something different to everyone and works of art effect every individual in a different way. That is what makes it special.
If your kid draws something for you in art class you immediately put it up on the fridge because to you that is a work of art from their little creative mind.
Who are you to say what is art and what isn't art.
I personally can't wait for this show because i think the concept is truly original and pretty fantastic and if you want to be a snob then seriously just shut up and stop whining.
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am i the only person who thinks this is one of the worst ideas ever? I'm not a big fan of black metal, but I'm REALLY not into listening to music because it's "funny to me" or whatever excuse most of the people at this event will have. and the blatant waste of food, made by the most wasteful food companies on the planet... they've destroyed rain forests to let cattle graze so you can have them slaughtered so some attention-whores can wrestle in a pool of death? what's the point? what does this prove? that you can get women to degrade themselves in ANY "food" you can think of? What a disgusting display of America's gluttony and lack of culture.
well these companies are going to sell a billion hamburgers this year alone whether i have the show or not. and yes it is an ironic juxtaposition of death and gluttony. i'm sorry if you can't understand how to juxtapose to seemingly unrelated topics in your mind.
i mean how many galleries in new york feature artwork by photographers who make their models look like emaciated women from the third world, causing an incredible amount of damage to the psyches of young women in america? maybe i will do a show that juxtaposes morrissey lyrics with bulimia. yes. i will call it Girlfriend in a Coffin but you probably won't get that either.
there is a delicate balance in this world. so all that food that fashion models don't eat this year can be thrown around on a bunch of people that want to have a good time for a couple of days.
furthermore, there will hardly be any black metal music that you will have to be subjected to at this show. there is only one black metal band in the two day event.
Gladly, you're not the only person to think this is a bad idea. I was beginning to think I was the only one.
I hardly doubt this show was concieved by sitting around and thinking about what seemingly unrelated topics could be contrasted. I think it has more to do with, yet again, people in this city trying to be qwerky and weird, while attempting to pass it off as "art". I'm really tired of people lowering the music and art bar in Baltimore, it's disgusting.
Please tell these girls involved that there is more to life than getting attention, and if their low self-esteem is truly that bad, then degrading themselves further won't really help their situation.
p.s.
Morrissey? Does everyone involved with this event like Morrissey? C'mon, it's 2007.
Okay, well here's what I have to say. Why does everyone keep focusing on the ladies who are participating in this for fun? If you are worried about ladies degrading themselves, take a look at "The Block". There's something you can be pissed about.
hmmmmm...
"I think it has more to do with, yet again, people in this city trying to be qwerky and weird, while attempting to pass it off as "art". I'm really tired of people lowering the music and art bar in Baltimore, it's disgusting."
Okay, so someone does something different from the Norm, and all the sudden it's disgusting? It's okay if you don't like it, don't understand it, or don't think it's fun. Really, that is okay. But, just because you aren't into it, doesn't make it a bad idea?!? If this isn't something you want to participate in, then stay at home and watch your Fox News Channel (if you don't the terrorists might win!)
And lastly, though I can't stand the sound, look, or thought of Morrissey, but who are you to call someone out on their music choices? Are you gonna call out all the people that enjoy music other than what you like???
I apologize that some people have different views than you do. But, you may have to learn to live with it. I'm sure it happened before, I'm sure it will happen again. Try thinking outside of your little box.
By the way, you speak of lowering the music and art bar in baltimore, and how disgusting all of this stuff is... your fucking name is Ugly Horse Balls.
wonderful! i cant tell you how boring i find most art events to be. i came up with this event because i wanted to do something fun and absurd. i love that some people are upset or confused by this event. i must be doing something right!
i love this city and all the filth and strange characters that come with it. kudos to all the crazy heathens i have met in this city that make my life more worth living. for those of you that can't lighten up, i will gladly let you borrow my crowbar to pry your head out of your ass.
i don't appreciate my friends who are participating in the wrestling, being referred to as whores. they are wonderful and fun friends of mine, who are participating in this event because it is a good time. your ugly imagination makes your interpretation of how to perceive this event ugly.
if you want to raise the standards of anything, "ugly horse balls" (is that how you want to represent your highbrow point of view?), could you please start with your spelling?
and for the record, i like morrissey.
I assure you, Charlotte Benedetto has no problems with self esteem, has never been termed an "attention whore," and doesn't "degrade herself" for mens' entertainment.
THE REASON THE RAINFORESTS ARE OVERGRAZED IS BECAUSE YOU DON'T VOTE.
It's not because I'm going to kick the Roller Girls' asses all over the place. YOU ARE IGNORANT.
I've been training for 2 weeks so far, internet fags, you wanna come help me work out?
You puked:"What a disgusting display of America's gluttony and lack of culture." What a disgusting display of me kicking your ass verbally. What a disgusting display of pseudo-liberal and pseudo-environmental and pseudo-feminist sentiment.
Before you holler all over the ghetto about us "lowering the bar" why don't you start your own world-renowned art and music collective so we can be on the same level? Oh, I'm sorry, must be because you can only criticize. How sad for you.
The Fryin' Maiden
"You're the One For Me Fatty" is a fucking awesome song, as is "Every Day is Like Sunday," What exactly is the point of making remarks like "do you still like Minor Threat? C'mon it's 2007. You still like the Ramones? C'mon it's 2007." The land of 2007 is populated with retards, so yes, I also like 1977 and 1987 music. Did you pretend to like Morrissey in 1997, but realize the sham is over, and now it's time to pretend to like something else, or to pretend to be outraged by a food fight?
hahaha! charlotte, you just owned that.
HERE HERE!!!! THANK GOD FOR YOUR CREATIVITY DEGREASER!! It's a break from the monotony of daily living. It's fun, it's an escape, and it's a great idea. I also agree with you on the wrestling aspect. These ladies are doing it for fun. Why not take part in something so spectacular?!?!
I'm behind it 100% (even if you like Morrissey! Haha, many people do)
These are probably the same people who think like this dude...
thanks! i'm glad you appreciate it. i like the music of charles manson if that counts for anything!
um, I actually prefer the sounds of mugwye1 and Ugly Horse Balls crying over a fucking show! Not to mention that fucking song on the BMFFF video! That is stuck in my head!
All this Being My Friend Forever Fuckerage is making me hungry. I know, I'll just do some jumping jacks, pee on a copy of ArtForum, jog over to Lexington Market and carbo-load on a rainforest beef bacon-cheeseburger fried in the blood of some liberals. Ahhh, what a life of leisure it is, being a celebrity artist in Baltimore.
Most self-righteous hippies would make an excellent source of smoky, smoky bacon, has anyone considered this? MMmmmmm, cannibacon.
mmmm... a double hippieburger with cannibacon! I'm in.
"GET IN THE POOL OF DEATH!"
well, actually it is going to be a mostly vegetarian pool, with a couple of hamburgers thrown in so it's not technically vegetarian.
HAIL, DEBATIVE BLACKENED FIENDS!!!!
Kevorkian here. mugwye1 happens to be one of my good mates so its refreshing to hear his argument. i agree with him. this is wasteful. when it could be served to food not bombs or another charity. but hey THE WORLD IS FUCKED TO SHITVILLE so nihilism is the only way out sometimes. Creative Nihilism.
you know the huge tomato festival in rome? i think its rome. they all run around in tomatos and fight! lets invite them over!....
I know for a fact that one of the wrastlers is not going to be dressing in skimpy hot stuff, she will be in full mexicano wrestling outfit and mask of course. now thats bad ass.
as for me... ill be on the fucking stage, with other comrades... puking an audial fountain of black blood everywhere. on you. sub-bass sonic derailment of the lowest order!!!!!
and im a fuckin vegetarian!
i havent ate at Burger thing, McRonalds, or Kenfucky Tazered Birds .. Taco Hell is an exception.. they make a good bean and rice on the go. (i recommend the Extra Hot sauce)
ill be in the corner with my veggie burger and a chalice of decapitated angel blood.
STOP OVER POPULATION : KILL YOURSELF
the tomato fight (Tomatina) takes place in SPAIN every year for 1 hour. many trucks come by and unload tomatos, they give you goggles. and its on muthafuckas:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomatina
"Before you holler all over the ghetto about us "lowering the bar" why don't you start your own world-renowned art and music collective so we can be on the same level? Oh, I'm sorry, must be because you can only criticize. How sad for you."
Believe me darling, I'm 10x more proficient with art and music than you will ever be, so please, don't make me list my abilities on here because I'd rather let you off easy.
And if these certain unnamed pseudo-art collectives is all it takes to get recognized, then I'm hurtin' for society's standards.
"You're the One For Me Fatty" is a fucking awesome song, as is "Every Day is Like Sunday,"
I've heard some Morrissey songs before. They're not bad. But I would never say I like it.
"What exactly is the point of making remarks like "do you still like Minor Threat? C'mon it's 2007. You still like the Ramones? C'mon it's 2007."
No, I don't still like Minor Threat (and I definitely hate the Ramones) because they're music is so fucking outdated now. Why still listen to Minor Threat when there are new bands out there now doing a better job. It was great music at the time, and it's great nostalgia, but c'mon, we've moved on musically.
"Did you pretend to like Morrissey in 1997, but realize the sham is over, and now it's time to pretend to like something else"
No, I've never liked Morrissey. I've never enjoyed any artists that was popular when my parents were my age. That was music for them.
I can understand enjoying music that your parents had you listen to growing up or whatever, but move on. There's alot more out there than Frank Zappa and The Beatles.
i don't agree with anything that these companies do, in fact the opposite. that is why i have invited over 50 artists to say whatever they want using the topic. what they choose to do is up to them. while i am not a vegetarian, i do think it would be great if we could get most of our food from vegan sources like soy. i also think hemp should be used instead of trees as it is a more economical and environmentally friendly crop. i will actually look into giving a portion of the proceeds to food not bombs.
The point is not "it's wasteful" the point is that self-righteous people like to claim that "it's wasteful" or "it's not feminist" when their actual problem with the event is "I don't like it."
food not bombs does not want ten pounds of white bread and gallons of mayo, trust me, I ran FNB OUT OF MY HOUSE FOR THREE YEARS. I don't remember seeing you there.
FAIL.
How can you even advocate giving homeless people this NON-Food? So they can be poisoneed too? FAST FOOD IS NOT FOOD. Activists spend a lot of time educating people like you.
hey butthole.
they're = they are
their indicates posession.
minor threat is awesome.
its easy to talk shit when you remain anonymous.
You vomited: Believe me darling, I'm 10x more proficient with art and music than you will ever be, so please, don't make me list my abilities on here because I'd rather let you off easy"
FAIL. oooh, I'm being let off easy!
Calling someone "darling" only makes you seem paternalistic and dumb. You're talking to someone who SELLS their artwork. For money. Someone who WRITES articles. For money. But you did use the word "proficient." Hmmm. You seem suddenly so godlike next to my weeny nobody-ness. Phew. Glad you let me off easy. Dad.
You puked: Why still listen to Minor Threat when there are new bands out there now doing a better job. It was great music at the time, and it's great nostalgia, but c'mon, we've moved on musically.
I bet you get mad when the "new band" you introduced to everyone "sells out," too, right?
It's okay to like new things AND old things, junior! Cheer up! What's this "we've moved on"? What, you got a mouse in your pocket? this might blow some minds, but I can continue to like King Diamond during my liking Matt + Kim phase, okay? I'm a complex person. Clearly you are not.
you spewed: No, I've never liked Morrissey. I've never enjoyed any artists that was popular when my parents were my age. That was music for them.
I can understand enjoying music that your parents had you listen to growing up or whatever, but move on. There's alot more out there than Frank Zappa and The Beatles.
The fact that you write this proves you know exactly nothing about who you are arguing with and what you are talking about. "Darling."
Also: "ALOT" is not a word.
Like I said, those two Morrissey songs are good, and I'm confident in my coolness level so I can admit publicly to liking them. I also enjoyed Peter Paul and Mary, Mercyful Fate, Amy Winehouse, and the folk music of immigrants from Jamaica to Britain in the 1950's-- today. Just in one day!
How can someone simultaneously like all these things? It's called growing up, little Ugly Horse Balls, it's called "Growing Up."
Petey, this is so fun. Why is this so fun? Are these people for real? I can't believe they'd be so dumb. Are you putting them up to this?
Annnyway, I decided on spicy asian-stripper-sushi instead of a hippie-cannibacon-cheeseburger.
whew, this page is definitely making my day.
ummm....anyone else like boobies with their burgers? Lemme hear ya say YAH!
@mugwye1 phk off back to Adbusters and let creative people like Peter alone. Don't you have some shoe factory you can hassle?
Hey Char! I can assure you that i didn't put anyone up to this. There really are pretentious sticks in the mud out there like this. I am laughing my ass off at this thread!
Anyways, you'll be glad to know that I talked it over with Neil and we decided that we are going to donate a portion of the proceeds to Food Not Bombs.
I think the problem is a lot of us thought BMFFF was supposed to highlight hipster irony and apathy about corporate waste and the many complex social manifestations of black metal within the American "bad-ass" idiosyncratic idiom which stretches from the West Memphis Three all the way back to Stagger Lee.
Therefore, Waaa. Waaa. Waaa. Boo. Hoo.
from colonel sanders and count grischnacht all the way back to bigfoot and leif erikson!
heres my dumb, crude painting
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/danielalbrigo/blackmetal.jpg
Okay, you seriously made me laugh out loud here at work with the whole "you vomited:", "you spewed:" bit, so that was pretty good.
In any case, for future reference, it would help your cause a bit to not resort to pointing out my little flaws in spelling. iff i wuz writng lik this, id undirstand it. But, seriously, you're going to hassle me about "alot"...
You farted: "...You're talking to someone who SELLS their artwork. For money. Someone who WRITES articles. For money...Dad. (that was funny too)"
I truly think it's cool you get paid for doing what you do. But just because it sells doesn't mean its actually good. I've seen plenty of artwork out there that sucks ass, yet, it sells. That's just one of the mysteries of the Universe. Kid.
You pooped: I bet you get mad when the "new band" you introduced to everyone "sells out," too, right?
No, because I don't introduce music to people. Ever. I do hate it when bands sell out, who doesn't.
I'm a complex person. Clearly you are not.
I'll be the first to tell you that. I'm as un-complex as they come.
A bigger turd: "...I also enjoyed Peter Paul and Mary, Mercyful Fate, Amy Winehouse,...folk music of immigrants from Jamaica to Britain in the 1950's-- today. Just in one day! How can someone simultaneously like all these things?"
I believe it's called: "being easily appeased" or, "lack of individual style."
Biggest turd of all: It's called growing up, little Ugly Horse Balls, it's called "Growing Up."
What do you know about growing up? Are you 60 years old with 4 grandkids and living off retirement?
Why the fuss over Ugly Horse Balls? Are you upset that I didn't choose something more mature, like ILUVPICASSO? So yes, my chosing Ugly Horse Balls is a reflection of my nature. I'm fine with that. Then does having an "art show" party where people waste food and women wrestle in it for qwerky entertainment have anything to say about the nature of those attending/organizing?
All in all, this was a very interesting conversation and I actually enjoyed it.
ok. so some people don't know how to spell quirky. big deal.
you just talk so much shit you don't know anything about. you haven't even seen any of the art in the show or know what it's going to be, so it is easy for you to say that it's crude and lowering the bar.
if you would have taken 5 minutes to research any of the artists that are in the show, you would have seen that it features internationally renowned tattooers like albrigo, whose piece is phenomenal, and seth ciferri. You would have seen that very well renowned photographers like sam holden, josh sisk, joe m. giordano, who are all published in magazines are in the show. you would have seen that charlotte is a big part of wham city, which recently had an 8 page spread in city paper, and its members have been given a great deal of praise in the new york times and pitchfork media. i could go on but to assume that this is some crude show is ridiculous. i myself am a graduate of rhode island school of design, published, and sell my artwork. i've assembled a huge list of great artists and bands for this. i don't really want people at the show that can only focus on "waste of food". i'm donating some proceeds to food not bombs so quit whining about it.
Seriously, if people who care about Baltimore's underground art communtity are complaining this diligently, you probably ARE doing something wrong.
Its almost like you are being purposely and arrogantly ignorant to the fact that the theme of your art show alienates a large chunk of your potential audience. And that is not good p.r.
I would love to hear the organizer of BMFFF to give a thorough explaination of ... why this is an artshow worth paying money to attend.
And also, just from a personal stand point (and this is no attack, a reponse is not necessary) I don't give a shit about big names of artists when i go to art shows. If anything it makes me want to go about 10,000 times less. I'm just as interested, if not more so, in what the 'nobodies' are producing.
{feel free to correct any of my grammatical errors, i live for constructive criticism}
seeing that i'm new to this city, the artists in this show are simply the ones i know and like. i've heard mixed things about peoples feelings towards this show which are mostly based on a gut reaction to images their minds conjure up from the juxtaposition which is indeed an ugly one. it's meant to be. i explain the idea behind the show somewhere else on this blog. i think a good deal of art shows are boring and irrelevant to things going on in our culture or merely touch on a subject like a whisper and "who cares?". this is NOT A SHOW LIKE THAT. this show is a sledgehammer and sledgehammers can be messy but they sure are fun!
That reminds me; Gallagher wastes so much food! What a prick that guy is.
After reading all of the comments I am really frustraited with everyones really narrow view of what "art" is.
I may not be involved in the art scene or even know anything about "art" for that matter, but last time i looked up the definition of art there were like 16 definitions of what art exactly was and i'm sure there are even more than that.
the first definition says:
"the quality, production, expression, or realm, according to aesthetic principles, of what is beautiful, appealing, or of more than ordinary significance."
no matter how cliche it is, beauty really is in the eye of the beholder and what some people see as art others see as weird or stupid. Art means something different to everyone and works of art effect every individual in a different way. That is what makes it special.
If your kid draws something for you in art class you immediately put it up on the fridge because to you that is a work of art from their little creative mind.
Who are you to say what is art and what isn't art.
I personally can't wait for this show because i think the concept is truly original and pretty fantastic and if you want to be a snob then seriously just shut up and stop whining.
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